Puzzled

[keaalu]

Random little irritance that I've seen again.

Why do people (and furries in particular) always ALWAYS say weird/just-plain-stupid things like "I'm a female vixen!" or "I'm part fox and part vixen!" That's like saying "hey I'm female lioness" or "wow I'm part horse and part horse!". Well, really?! *beats head on desk*

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[duraji-synth.livejournal.com]

People actually do that? Wow! O_o

[aegis-fox.livejournal.com]

You might as well ask why any redundancies exist in languages, although technically, such a thing as a male vixen might be excusable; i.e. a person who's technically male but thinks of themself as a female fox (these are furries we're talking about, after all...)

[hobben.livejournal.com]

These people also type their PIN number into the ATM machine, and go to bed at 11pm at night.

It bugs me, too - I feel your pain.

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

I've seen it a lot. :\ And thinking about it, I HAVE seen someone refer to a "female lioness". *twitch*

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

DON'T CONFUSE THE ISSUE, YOU... YOU MALE MALE, YOU!

And I must disagree on the "excusability" factor, a "male vixen" would be just plain silly. :P If they thought of themself as female they'd be a vixen, irrespective of physical gender.

But then furry is basically fucked six ways since saturday (in all its potential meanings), so... I guess it boils down to "who damn cares?" ;)

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

:D They had something about that in New Scientist. Apparently, one council (or something) sent people letters detailing their "personal PIN number" once - the magazine said they'd be interested to hear from the first person to get a "personal identification PIN number".

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

I'll admit when I was a little girl I thought vixen and fox were two different animals. Well, I can blame Disney for that one: in their animated film 'Robin Hood' they labeled Robin Hood as a Fox and Lady Marin as a Vixen.

Damn Disney for confusing the minds of kids like me!

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

Oh, sure, as a KID I can understand it, even *I* didn't know what a vixen was when I was about 3 or 4 (since I remember asking, when I was watching it at my grandparents, waaay back in the early 80s. Odd, what sticks in your mind.)

For a FURRY with a FOX alter-ego to talk about "sexy female vixens" just makes me go buh-what? :P

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

I think I was a bit older then that when I first saw it and I didn't find out the 'truth' until much later to be honest.

Either way I agree with you on the 'wtf' bit.

[aegis-fox.livejournal.com]

You, apparently, since you posted in your journal about it. And come to think of it, I've not seen non-furries (unless you count therians as separate) call themselves female vixens. Though I can't possibly figure out why...

So now I'm a double-male...

To risk pouring oil on a fire, so to speak, this reminds me of a book...
Armed Gunmen, True Facts, and Ridiculous Nonsense (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375423524/103-4775665-4852659?v=glance)

Should be enough redundancies in there to easily drive you mad.

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

Don't ya think she's 'mad'enough? *runs*

[masstreble.livejournal.com]

Well, I imagine it will surprising when somebody posts, "Hi, I'm a male vixen." When life hands you absurdity, make lemonade.

Seriously, though, it looks like they just want to put a healthy modifier in there. Just "I'm a vixen" isn't satisfying. I think they're right: it isn't. By such descriptions, the best way to introduce, say, Mickey Rooney would be, "He's a male human!" That doesn't quite do Rooney justice, does it? Personally, I like to introduce myself with a name. Come to think of it, I've never done it any other way!

Speaking of introductions, don't be concerned with me: I was just browsing my friends-of-friends list while I should be doing something more worthwhile.

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

"Just "I'm a vixen" isn't satisfying"
- perhaps not, but they could pick a better modifier than "female". :P As that makes it "Hey guys, I'm a female female fox!" (Reminds me of some of the "double females" featured on VCL Horrors *shudder*) To go by your description, Mickey Rooney would be "He's a male man." I see the point, I just think it really sums up the midset of certain fandoms... ;) To be honest it was the way a lot of furries seem to class "vixen" as a whole different species to just "female fox" (like Sl'askia mentioned earlier) which irks me.

"I was just browsing my friends-of-friends list while I should be doing something more worthwhile."
I do that. ;)

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

"You, apparently, since you posted in your journal about it. And come to think of it, I've not seen non-furries (unless you count therians as separate) call themselves female vixens."
- I meant "use the term" rather than call themselves it, per se. And since when have rants got to be earth-shattering? (Excuse= it was late and I was pissed off that my flatmate had nicked ALL the hot water AGAIN (2 nights running, chrissake!) before I got the chance to have my own shower.)

I'm going to be late for work at this rate. :P