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[keaalu]

On a related note to my last rant, how is it that "tod" has got into the English (*coughs*) language as "male fox"? Last *I* heard, a tod was just a fox, be it male or female - derives from one of the old Viking-esque languages, and is just a Northern English dialect for "fox". Same with Reynard, same with Charlie. A male fox is a dog-fox. Is it just furry trying to come up with "cuter", "less insulting" ways of naming male foxes? Geh.
Edit: I ALSO thought a baby rabbit was a "kitten", but apparently now it's a "bunny". I would swear here, but I don't feel inclined to piss off the religious folk.

Working on species again. Nothing much to report. Sorting out some locum work so I can get more mooonneyyyy. Trying to sort out art and site stuff and doodies as well, but for now I'm bored and going to go sleep, I think. Well, in a while. I so badly want to finish off my stories but my brain is running in idle and I can't summon the energy to do it right now. I may have to take them to work and do them at lunch break.

For the third night on the run, my flatmate has gone out and left their alarm clock on, and it is now bibbing away behind a locked door so I can't even shut the damn thing up.

HULK SMASH.

I want apple pie. And custard. And chai. :(

Edit2: Fantastic site. Mucho laffo. :D
"randy adj. One way of ensuring that Brits laugh at American sitcoms is to put someone in the program called Randy. This is because randy in UK English translates very well as horny in US English and, because we all have such a simple sense of humour, sentences such as "Hello, I'm Randy" have us doubled up on the sofa." *giggles*

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[slaskia.livejournal.com]

I've seen TV programs on Animal Planet and such refer to male foxes as 'tods', so I am not sure if it's purily a furry 'mistake'. To be honest I thought the term 'dog-fox' was kind of funny...as it sounds like it would be referrign to animal that was a hybred of a dog and a fox...

(now that I think if it. I think this could be a case of 'Blame Disney' as in the movie 'The Fox and the Hound', the fox character was named 'Tod'.)

I never knew baby rabbits were referred as 'kittens'. To me 'kittens' were strictly used for referring to babies of the feline kind....

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

Nah, probably isn't a furry thing at all, it's just more visible there as there's so many goddamn "yiffy foxes" about. (Furry is really starting to make me hate foxes, which is giving me the strangest, almost schizophrenic feeling. More love for the cuttlefish and kingfishers and tamandua, I says.) I thought the same when I was younger, but then I noticed there were dog-otters and so on, and since then I've not really batted an eyelid. It was only when the whole "tod = male fox" thing started to proliferate I started going "huh, when did that happen?" ESPECIALLY when I see definitions that state "tod is a British word for male fox" - eh, excuse me, I LIVE here and I have NEVER heard anyone say "oh look at that tod fox" - Charlie, sure. Reynard, yep. "Look at that damn fox in the bins", sure. But "oh, what a nice tod fox, tally ho", never. :P

Wasn't wholly Disney's fault (one thing I WILL credit them with getting half right ;) ), as the fox in the Mannix original (which I also have and which is NOTHING like the Disney pukeycutesome film) was "Tod", and that was one of the few things they kept the same. Disney probably popularised it, though. :P

I know about the rabbits, but I even looked it up. They're either "kittens" or "kindle" (although I thought the latter was the collective term for a group of kittens, but... c'est la vie. This is the intarweb, breeding ground of the weird and slightly-off)

...*needs to come up with a word for "male Nyen" now... Gr*

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

You...*blink* starting to hate...*blink* foxes? *blink**blink*

Damn you furries! *Shakes fist*

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

The furry one, yes. As they mean everything ELSE gets branded "oh you're so boring and unoriginal".

As in, "I need a character, what's popular, I know, I'll have a giant-multi-boobed sex-crazed dickgirl fox, that'll be cool!"

*BEATS WITH GIANT HAMMER*

BASTARDS. To be honest I'd be happy if foxes had kept their general "evil devilbeast murdering chickenthief" image instead.

[aegis-fox.livejournal.com]

Argh, yes, the foxes of notoriety in the fandom. Even the other fox furry fans, fox furries, or whatever name you'd call them by, hate them. Or at least the concept of them.



What aggravates me is that the word/concept of "y---" has a supposed origin involving foxes, which is, in fact, completely fabricated. Though I imagine you already knew that much. Stories I've heard from foxes who've been in the fandom a while is that it resulted as a bad joke involving a single ... "randy" fox character, and collapsed from there. Yes, collapsed. I feel the term's quite appropriate.
Of course, I have absolutely no way to confirm it. But the stigmata that's been left on foxes is really annoying, regardless. Can I borrow that hammer when you're done?

Hmm. I actually knew some of those UK/American "translations," as it is. I've seen young rabbits also referred to as "kits," but not in very many places.
As for other names by which a fox would may be called, I've only ever heard people use "vixen." No idea where they came from. I generally just settle for "fox".
The spanish word for fox is Zorro. Of course, no one over here knows this, but they all know the word from a certain movie....

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

Heh, ditto on the whole "zorro" thing (after all, the South American foxes (which are closer related to wolves but we'll forgive them for that) are probably better known as zorros, even if people still call them foxes). I'm still sporadically writing my book, and I think I started that chapter "first, forget all notions of swashbuckling you may have heard..."

You can have the hammer now, if you want. :P

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

Huh....I took two courses in Spanish and I never realized 'Zorro' meant 'Fox'. Learn something new every day....

[aegis-fox.livejournal.com]

How could anyone hate something with a face like this?



Don't answer that.

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

This (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=vcl+vixen&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images) is (http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Yiffer/Big4th.jpg) how (http://www.taurinfox.com/Art/2004/Underwater%20Vixen%20and%20Tentacles.jpg). Although most foxes are fox in-name-only (slap a bushy tail and ginger coat on it and there's a fox, apparently), which is almost as goddamn irritating.

[aegis-fox.livejournal.com]

I said don't answer! A bit late now, though. Good thing I have an unscreened internet (interweb) connection.. In terms of those, well, I can see your point, though I tend to think of the foxes as the victims of such things. I'd prefer to keep any and all hostility towards the people that draw them.

Ah yes, that book. Almost forgot; did, in fact. Haven't heard anything about since FoxForest - been a while since I visited that site, actually (I never did have anything worth saying there. Still don't.)

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

*does not click the links...as she's very sure they are not work safe: probably filtered out anyway and boy is she going to have a lot to catch up on over in VCL_horrors*

I've noticed peeps like to mix foxes with wolves as well...and call them folfs...or something like that. *Shudder*

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

"...*needs to come up with a word for "male Nyen" now... Gr*"

How about 'hunk'. *giggles* I imagine the female nyens are just referred to as 'sluts' eh? *giggles more*

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

Heh, no. The official term for female is "hind", although you can imagine how often they get CALLED that. ;) I was thinking along the lines of "hart" for the male, but it's too obviously deer-ish.

[slaskia.livejournal.com]

I never heard of using 'hart' as a referrence to a male deer, only stag.